cardinalsinned: (That one time was kind of weird)
Cesare Borgia ([personal profile] cardinalsinned) wrote2013-01-16 09:08 pm
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wake up time

[ This is probably the second worst way to wake up, in a hospital bed with Juan there watching. ]

What... happened to me?
foundjuanting: (My sisters drowned and poisoned)

[personal profile] foundjuanting 2013-01-27 11:16 am (UTC)(link)
Though I have my doubts, our brother's acts towards our sister still have not crossed that line, and his words would say that he still only feels for her in that way... I hope.

...And as dark as his soul is, he is still my brother. You are both reflections of each other, each looking at the other through the glass. To him you no doubt are the shadow, to be tolerated until you become like him. But the matter is simple, if you are both reflections, it is more as though the glass is warped on both sides. The Cesare I know is a man who is enfolded within himself, he is one man to my father, one man to me, and one man to Lucrezia. His is furthermore a different man to his enemies and a even further still to his allies. I suspect that the Cesare I have seen can break himself down a thousand times and wear as many masks. If it is so easy for a Cesare to break away from the man who he was moments before in his own skin, then why is it such a struggle when that other man has a form of his own?
maleborgia: (he tames them well)

[personal profile] maleborgia 2013-01-28 07:05 am (UTC)(link)
There are two kinds of breaking, as you have just pointed out yourself. There is the act of becoming different, whether for our father's viewing or our sister's or for my own in contrast to him. Then there is also the fact that we are tied together in association and name, as even you have just referred to us both as images of the same form.
foundjuanting: (here I was fated to reside.)

[personal profile] foundjuanting 2013-01-28 07:18 am (UTC)(link)
Though you are tied together by that and you share parts of your character, you are still different from each other. Think of your horse, is he the same as any other steed of his like, or is he not first himself and then a member of his breed.
maleborgia: (tamer of destiny)

[personal profile] maleborgia 2013-01-28 08:06 am (UTC)(link)
*pause, then leaning forward*

There, that is the kind of answer I would like to hear more of. This is why I want to speak with you and not the drugs, this is my brother's voice.
foundjuanting: (Rays of light shone down on me)

[personal profile] foundjuanting 2013-01-28 08:19 am (UTC)(link)
[shaking his head a little]

Your brothers' voice was speaking through them as well, they do not rule me.
maleborgia: (él que todo le temía)

[personal profile] maleborgia 2013-01-28 08:58 am (UTC)(link)
It was muffled and harder to hear.
foundjuanting: (here I was fated to reside.)

[personal profile] foundjuanting 2013-01-28 09:13 am (UTC)(link)
Was it truly? I could understand you well enough.
maleborgia: (You mean you never read Averroes?)

[personal profile] maleborgia 2013-01-28 09:17 am (UTC)(link)
I don't think that challenges my point.
foundjuanting: (Default)

[personal profile] foundjuanting 2013-01-28 09:22 am (UTC)(link)
Then I would ask where you could not hear me.
maleborgia: (brb conquering the Romagnol)

[personal profile] maleborgia 2013-01-28 09:57 am (UTC)(link)
I wonder if it is just that it is hard for you to notice this when you are the one under the influence, but it is difficult to carry on a conversation with you.
foundjuanting: (The water covers everything)

[personal profile] foundjuanting 2013-01-28 10:00 am (UTC)(link)
I had not noticed, how is that so?
maleborgia: (two centuries too early for this joke)

[personal profile] maleborgia 2013-01-28 10:10 am (UTC)(link)
How do you think? Imagine having a conversation with a man who has been drinking, when you yourself are dry.
foundjuanting: (Father turn the water down)

[personal profile] foundjuanting 2013-01-28 10:25 am (UTC)(link)
It is not that difficult...
maleborgia: (what man has no guilt?)

[personal profile] maleborgia 2013-01-28 10:31 am (UTC)(link)
It's wearisome.
foundjuanting: (Default)

[personal profile] foundjuanting 2013-01-28 04:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Well if you have difficulty understanding me when you are not under the effects of it yourself...
maleborgia: (looking for my Rubicon)

[personal profile] maleborgia 2013-01-28 08:11 pm (UTC)(link)
You know that is not the appropriate suggestion.
foundjuanting: (You will resume your callow ways)

[personal profile] foundjuanting 2013-01-29 05:17 am (UTC)(link)
Then what suggestion do you have? Nothing has changed in this home and nothing will change. This deals with the matter well enough.
maleborgia: (Aquinas. Just some light reading.)

[personal profile] maleborgia 2013-01-29 06:19 am (UTC)(link)
Do you remember when you first visited this place?
foundjuanting: (Father turn the water down)

[personal profile] foundjuanting 2013-01-29 06:38 am (UTC)(link)
In parts, it's beginning to fade.
maleborgia: (knitting soul to soul)

[personal profile] maleborgia 2013-01-29 07:58 am (UTC)(link)
If it is fading, then let us remake it.
foundjuanting: (You will resume your callow ways)

[personal profile] foundjuanting 2013-01-29 08:09 am (UTC)(link)
Is that even possible? The landscape has changed in many ways.
maleborgia: (the world turned in a different orbit)

[personal profile] maleborgia 2013-01-29 08:33 am (UTC)(link)
You are clearly adventurous. Would you not see if you can navigate it?
foundjuanting: (You will resume your callow ways)

[personal profile] foundjuanting 2013-01-29 08:38 am (UTC)(link)
You know that I mean more than just the terrain.
maleborgia: (dedicated a treatise on syphilis to him)

[personal profile] maleborgia 2013-01-29 08:44 am (UTC)(link)
It's a metaphor.
foundjuanting: (The water covers everything)

[personal profile] foundjuanting 2013-01-29 08:47 am (UTC)(link)
Then I consider myself without proper supplies, men, and a map. I would know if it is even a possibility. I've been told more than once that there is nothing I have done to make the situation more... habitable.

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