cardinalsinned: (That one time was kind of weird)
Cesare Borgia ([personal profile] cardinalsinned) wrote2013-01-16 09:08 pm
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wake up time

[ This is probably the second worst way to wake up, in a hospital bed with Juan there watching. ]

What... happened to me?
foundjuanting: (Father I'm not feeling well)

[personal profile] foundjuanting 2013-01-23 10:34 am (UTC)(link)
I believe five, I may be miscounting.
maleborgia: (Cada uno se puede salvar en su ley.)

[personal profile] maleborgia 2013-01-23 10:39 am (UTC)(link)
And I would not see you here a sixth time. Enough of this! Let us find another way.
foundjuanting: (Even though you told me)

[personal profile] foundjuanting 2013-01-23 10:41 am (UTC)(link)
What do you suggest brother? I stayed by my terms and longer.
maleborgia: (Aquinas. Just some light reading.)

[personal profile] maleborgia 2013-01-23 06:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Obviously simply giving it up is not enough. You told me last night about what you feel when you use it, and I can see that if you cannot have it you grasp around for something else to fill that need. The problem then becomes finding something that is satisfactory if not pleasing to you and that also does not endanger your health.
foundjuanting: (And as the spotlights fade away)

[personal profile] foundjuanting 2013-01-24 11:25 am (UTC)(link)
I would have something without the risk as well, but all that I have read about carry these risks, and I do not see the alternative coming to pass. It was tried before, and it only resulted in failure of the highest sort.
maleborgia: (and forgive us our trespasses)

[personal profile] maleborgia 2013-01-24 08:02 pm (UTC)(link)
I think you are looking at this from too narrow a perspective. If nothing else, remember that we are in a place with far different available materials than normal.
foundjuanting: (Default)

[personal profile] foundjuanting 2013-01-25 12:18 am (UTC)(link)
Fine! Then tell me what you would suggest!
maleborgia: (Aquinas. Just some light reading.)

[personal profile] maleborgia 2013-01-25 12:23 am (UTC)(link)
*calm*

I don't have a suggestion, Juan. I am here to come up with and discuss alternatives with you.
foundjuanting: (Default)

[personal profile] foundjuanting 2013-01-25 12:27 am (UTC)(link)
...if our family were more in order, it would distract me from other interests. However our brother will not even entertain the notion.
maleborgia: (two centuries too early for this joke)

[personal profile] maleborgia 2013-01-25 12:45 am (UTC)(link)
What do you mean by in order?
foundjuanting: (Even though you told me)

[personal profile] foundjuanting 2013-01-25 01:09 am (UTC)(link)
[Don't make me say it bro]

More...amicable days between us all.
maleborgia: (he must make no friends)

[personal profile] maleborgia 2013-01-25 01:18 am (UTC)(link)
*no, this is your punishment. :| *

Truthfully, I would like that as well.
foundjuanting: (Default)

[personal profile] foundjuanting 2013-01-25 02:30 am (UTC)(link)
I have given this up before for the assurance that our brother would try to improve the matter between us, but he long ago admitted that he would do no such thing. I have held my tongue, tried to make amends, but still there is no change, and last night he declared me to be a preditor of my family.
maleborgia: (I came to myself within a dark wood)

[personal profile] maleborgia 2013-01-25 02:59 am (UTC)(link)
I understand. You have tried to fix things for some time now.
foundjuanting: (Default)

[personal profile] foundjuanting 2013-01-25 03:02 am (UTC)(link)
So this is a way to fix matters where I can not.
maleborgia: (we walked on him lightly)

[personal profile] maleborgia 2013-01-25 03:09 am (UTC)(link)
Am I not your brother as well? Do not tell him this: I am ashamed of what may come to pass.
foundjuanting: (Default)

[personal profile] foundjuanting 2013-01-25 03:18 am (UTC)(link)
What do you mean?
maleborgia: (Aquinas. Just some light reading.)

[personal profile] maleborgia 2013-01-25 09:58 am (UTC)(link)
I am concerned for your health and our relationship. I do not want this mistrust between us.
foundjuanting: (here I was fated to reside.)

[personal profile] foundjuanting 2013-01-27 05:24 am (UTC)(link)
It is hard not to be mistrustful, you are cold brother, perhaps even more so than the other one here.
maleborgia: (dedicated a treatise on syphilis to him)

[personal profile] maleborgia 2013-01-27 08:14 am (UTC)(link)
It is in my nature, then. Try not to hold it against me.
foundjuanting: (You will resume your callow ways)

[personal profile] foundjuanting 2013-01-27 08:20 am (UTC)(link)
Only if you do not hold what I have done against me.
maleborgia: (Aquinas. Just some light reading.)

[personal profile] maleborgia 2013-01-27 08:21 am (UTC)(link)
This is not your nature; this is a poison.
foundjuanting: (Default)

[personal profile] foundjuanting 2013-01-27 08:42 am (UTC)(link)
Are you so sure?

I was speaking of what brought on this matter. Am I truly a... debaser of brothers?
maleborgia: (Cada uno se puede salvar en su ley.)

[personal profile] maleborgia 2013-01-27 08:49 am (UTC)(link)
Juan, I've seen what happened. He's just as guilty of anything as you are. Furthermore, he has shown interest in both a nun and our younger sister. Some days the only thing I think he is good for is to show me how not to act. You are still my brother--he is a shadow I would sooner break from.
foundjuanting: (My sisters drowned and poisoned)

[personal profile] foundjuanting 2013-01-27 11:16 am (UTC)(link)
Though I have my doubts, our brother's acts towards our sister still have not crossed that line, and his words would say that he still only feels for her in that way... I hope.

...And as dark as his soul is, he is still my brother. You are both reflections of each other, each looking at the other through the glass. To him you no doubt are the shadow, to be tolerated until you become like him. But the matter is simple, if you are both reflections, it is more as though the glass is warped on both sides. The Cesare I know is a man who is enfolded within himself, he is one man to my father, one man to me, and one man to Lucrezia. His is furthermore a different man to his enemies and a even further still to his allies. I suspect that the Cesare I have seen can break himself down a thousand times and wear as many masks. If it is so easy for a Cesare to break away from the man who he was moments before in his own skin, then why is it such a struggle when that other man has a form of his own?

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